Although not a film,the subject of Utopian movements during the very early american history is also an interesting lesson in religious control and one can see why groups like SDA and WT managed to get born on the tail wind of them.
Oz
'the matrix' and 'the village'.
elsewhere someone created a thread concerning the novels '1984' and 'animal farm' as being relevant to the wts.
i would also like to add a thread to draw suggestions for movies.. .
Although not a film,the subject of Utopian movements during the very early american history is also an interesting lesson in religious control and one can see why groups like SDA and WT managed to get born on the tail wind of them.
Oz
this has developed into a regular habit now.
i work for this company i don't partucularly want to work for, but in order to get a salary i do.
(trust me i'm looking for better options) every single month, bar one, they have have paid me late.
dont turn up for work.
when they get cranky at you go ballistic back at them. No money no worky.
If they run a business that close to the wire (meaning they have their own cash flow problems) they have no business employing people, they are basically not viable most of the time
Oz
(if you're tired of aawa threads, please be aware, this is an aawa thread.).
sadly - there are people who have been negatively affected by the aawa, and like other organizations, the aawa made protecting it's name and reputation a priority over helping and protecting the people it should have been trying to help.
like other organizations, they won't discuss the issues publicly with the community, insisting instead on discussions behind closed doors and "getting the names" of people expressing concerns.. .
focusing on 'taking down' aawa?
Its not the ememy. Its only mistake (in my mind) besides its privacy mistakes (that have been flogged enough) is perhaps the thought or expectation that it could unite ex jws into some organizational powerhouse to force the WT to change. That it has divided JWN and had some leave to support IT is a shame because this forum is not its ememy either.
This forums members have ALWAYS called bullshit on any ex jw group or website that gets it wrong or misrepresents reality. aawa was just the latest. I'm pretty sure if i put up a blog full of nonsense or daft ideas it would get torn into too.
aawa got torn into, lets see what it does to itself from hereon in, not clamor for its blood.
Focus on your own private battle with the WT i say...
Oz
i want to start by saying i will not participate in discussion here about my resignation as a moderator at jwn.. simon please consider this as my resignation from that position.. i have been posting on this board for almost 12 years.
i know some of you a lot, others a little and some not very well at all.
i have remained here for those of you who have needed support as you make the transition out of the wts, who needed someone to listen to your experiences of abuse at the hands of jehovah's witnesses, and to both laugh and cry with you as you progress out of the watchtower society.. we know that we have all experienced the cruelty of abuse of one kind or another.
I do not understand why Lady lee being here is a conflict of interest in her mind, this is not a group in oppostion to AAWA nor a rival.
Its only 'to do with' AAWA was various ones (self included) giving AAWA a flogging over its actions and lack of actions.
Good luck Lee...dont burn any bridges...
Oz
well i wouldn't really call it hard work, but i have to come into the office and sit and wait for the phone to ring.
i work every 3rd weekend and it really is unpleasant.
9 hours each day with nothing to do but wait for the phone to ring.
yes, but it would be 18 hours of paid sitting there bored yes?
beats the crap out of working all weekend for nothing...
oz
the watchtower perposely keeps its leaders "cordoned off" for a reason.
the ones really in charge want to be invisible and have been in control since knorr's day, and still think like him.
the gb want like hell to be visible and powerful.
c'mon Randy
spill the beans
name names
Oz
link will be below.
there's an email that's been floating around all over the jdub's emails and it somehow got sent to me.
i don't know if there's already been a post on this but i thought i should share.
I think the Watchtower has finally realized that using thick as a brick men who are considered 'spiritual' to do stuff is not working.
'Mr spiritual is' out and say hello to worldly marketing and PR firms i reckon.
This and the new website, graphics and slick cartoons and whiteboard doodles are not coming from JWs brains. (well i may be wrong but i doubt it)
Oz
if one of the current governing body members pulled a ray franz and stepped down/got disfellowshipped then either wrote an expose or something else to go against the watchtower society - would they be forgiven and accepted by the ex-jw community?.
considering they have ray's example behind them i find it more deplorable that they continue in their paths, and personally would find it hard, though not impossible to forgive them - but am interested in everyones opinion....
Thet are likely tied up pretty tight by the legal department with gag policies they had to sign...
probably get their arses sued off if they spoke a word, truth or not.
Oz
not sure if anyone has linked this yet.
go to the old site (lego men and green monsters have done the work it seems) as it redirects you to aawa.co.
http://aawa.co/blog/a-new-name-and-an-apology/.
I always wondered why they settled on the acronym they did.
very often, groups will come up with the acronym first then look for words to 'fit', and google images supplied what i think the reason ing may have been (of course seeing that i am in contact with none of them it is only my veiw)
there i found a picture of a magazine called AAWAKE! by them
and there i believe it is...wanting to use this clever play on words on a 'magazine' came before the actual name...and who would blame them, it is a clever use of the WTs own magazine name.
oz
so i've heard lots of talk from within about the 'new light' in this watchtower...i'm yet to look at it in any detail.
i'm kind of surprised actually...i first heard about it here before it was even available but close to the time it did come out people started bringing it up - even our co.. some say things like "have you heard about this?
" or "big changes," or "allot of things they said we believed, i didn't realize,"(lots of that) or "brain-overload" or " too much information, but i've never felt more pumped up" or "it's soo exciting to see jehovah's spirit lead his organization..." or "it requires time to sink in, but it's a good feeling!
If they GB must all be together to be the faithful slave than it follows they must all be together to be the evil slave...
If one on their own can be the evil slave, then one on their own can be the faithful slave...
which way is it GB?
Oz
oh, i forgot...it is whichever way suits your ends...